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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Hello Raf,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Thank you very much for the information.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Thanks&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Monisha&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"&gt; raffaeler [email removed]
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&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Friday, September 14, 2012 10:40 AM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; Monisha Barooah&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; Re: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT [WinRT:395469]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;From: raffaeler&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;mbarooah wrote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Hello Raf,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Thank you for the information.
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Do you have a link to the WinRT APIs that you could share? It would be good to know the APIs that are currently supported in WinRT.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Hi Monisha,&lt;br&gt;
do you mean the WinRT APIs that works in desktop mode?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Look at here:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br211377.aspx"&gt;http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br211377.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;Windows Runtime These JavaScript, C#, Visual Basic, and C&amp;#43;&amp;#43; APIs provide&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:"&gt; access to all core platform features&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;...&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;Windows Store apps only:Windows Store app APIs that are expressed as HTML or XAML elements are &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:"&gt;supported only in Windows Store apps&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, and are not supported in desktop apps or browsers.&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;I hope this helps,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Raf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;</description><author>mbarooah</author><pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:49:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">New Post: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT 20120914054944P</guid></item><item><title>New Post: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT</title><link>http://winrt.codeplex.com/discussions/395469</link><description>&lt;div style="line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;blockquote style="border: solid .1em #ccc; font-style: italic; margin: .25em 1em 0 1em; padding: 0 .25em 0 .25em;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;mbarooah wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"&gt;Hello Raf,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"&gt;Thank you for the information. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11.0pt;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 11pt;"&gt;Do you have a link to the WinRT APIs that you could share? It would be good to know the APIs that are currently supported in WinRT.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Hi Monisha,&lt;br /&gt;do you mean the WinRT APIs that works in desktop mode?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Look at here:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br211377.aspx"&gt;http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br211377.aspx&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/br211377.aspx"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;Windows Runtime These JavaScript, C#, Visual Basic, and C++ APIs provide&lt;span style="color: #ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt; access to all core platform features&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.
...
Windows Store apps only:Windows Store app APIs that are expressed as HTML or XAML elements are &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: #ff0000;"&gt;supported only in Windows Store apps&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, and are not supported in desktop apps or browsers.&lt;/pre&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I hope this helps,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Raf&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description><author>raffaeler</author><pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:39:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">New Post: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT 20120914053955P</guid></item><item><title>New Post: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT</title><link>http://winrt.codeplex.com/discussions/395469</link><description>&lt;div style="line-height: normal;"&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Hello Raf,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Thank you for the information. &lt;/span&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Do you have a link to the WinRT APIs that you could share? It would be good to know the APIs that are currently supported in WinRT.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Thanks&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Monisha&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"&gt;From:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"&gt; raffaeler [email removed]
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&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&gt; Friday, September 14, 2012 12:30 AM&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; Monisha Barooah&lt;br&gt;
&lt;b&gt;Subject:&lt;/b&gt; Re: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT [WinRT:395469]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;From: raffaeler&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Hi Monisha,&lt;br&gt;
first of all let me say that I am not from Microsoft. I am an independent developer (MVP) that has a strong passion for WinRT and many other MS technologies.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;The &amp;quot;Metro&amp;quot; platform was created only for user applications and not for administrative purposes. This means that you don't have UAC nor any kind of management such as event viewer or device management.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Every administrative application typically require an elevated token (administrator) and consequently must run in the dear old desktop. This means that you can't use WinRT to develop drivers installers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;For your info, please note that a portion of WinRT API can be used from desktop applications such as Windows Forms, WPF or MFC.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;As far as I know there is still no info on what will be available for the &amp;quot;Windows RT&amp;quot; devices (the ones the come with ARM CPUs). I suspect that only OEMs will be able to install drivers on that platform (and this
 does make sense at all). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Cheers,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9.0pt; font-family:"&gt;Raf&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;/div&gt;</description><author>mbarooah</author><pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:22:14 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">New Post: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT 20120914052214P</guid></item><item><title>New Post: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT</title><link>http://winrt.codeplex.com/discussions/395469</link><description>&lt;div style="line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi Monisha,&lt;br /&gt;first of all let me say that I am not from Microsoft. I am an independent developer (MVP) that has a strong passion for WinRT and many other MS technologies.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The "Metro" platform was created only for user applications and not for administrative purposes. This means that you don't have UAC nor any kind of management such as event viewer or device management.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Every administrative application typically require an elevated token (administrator) and consequently must run in the dear old desktop. This means that you can't use WinRT to develop drivers installers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For your info, please note that a portion of WinRT API can be used from desktop applications such as Windows Forms, WPF or MFC.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as I know there is still no info on what will be available for the "Windows RT" devices (the ones the come with ARM CPUs). I suspect that only&amp;nbsp;OEMs will be able to install drivers on that platform (and this does make sense at all).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheers,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Raf&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description><author>raffaeler</author><pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2012 07:29:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">New Post: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT 20120914072938A</guid></item><item><title>New Post: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT</title><link>http://winrt.codeplex.com/discussions/395469</link><description>&lt;div style="line-height: normal;"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080"&gt;Hello Everyone,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080"&gt;We have driver installers for our Win8 x86 and x64 versions and&amp;nbsp;wanted to know if&amp;nbsp;the same driver installers could be used&amp;nbsp;in the&amp;nbsp;WinRT platform as well?
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080"&gt;If not, what are the APIs to be used to develop driver installers in the WinRT platform? Does WinRT support driver installation&amp;nbsp;using installers?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080"&gt;I&amp;nbsp;came across the following link in the web.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span lang="EN" style="font-size:13.5pt"&gt;Limitations&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span lang="EN" style="font-size:12pt"&gt;Only software written using the &lt;a title="Windows Runtime" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Runtime"&gt;
Windows Runtime&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;a title="Metro (design language)" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_(design_language)"&gt;Metro&lt;/a&gt; style apps) can be used on Windows RT with the exception of
&lt;a title="Microsoft Office 2013" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2013"&gt;
Microsoft Office 2013&lt;/a&gt; and the desktop version of &lt;a title="Internet Explorer 10" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_10"&gt;
Internet Explorer 10&lt;/a&gt;. Developers will not be able to create applications to run on Windows RT using the
&lt;a title="Win32" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Win32"&gt;Win32&lt;/a&gt; APIs.&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT#cite_note-8"&gt;[9]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080"&gt;Could you help let know what are the WinRT APIs that could be used to develop driver installers in WinRT? Will the API that is used for developing driver installers for WinRT work for the x86 and x64 versions of Win8 as well?
 or is it that there would be separate APIs for driver installers in WinRT(ARM) and for&amp;nbsp;x86, x64 versions of Win8?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080"&gt;Thanks, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000080"&gt;Monisha&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/div&gt;</description><author>mbarooah</author><pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:02:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">New Post: Windows Driver Installers for WinRT 20120913100205P</guid></item><item><title>New Post: How-to compile WinRT debug source code</title><link>http://winrt.codeplex.com/discussions/274793</link><description>&lt;div style="line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;br /&gt;first of all stay sure to have installed Visual Studio 11 Ultimate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The preinstalled express edition only deals with metro-style apps while this utility is a pure Win32 Console COM/ATL application.&lt;br /&gt;I installed also the Device Driver Kit, but it should not be necessary to compile my app.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway the complete path for shobjidl.h is the following:&lt;br /&gt;C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\Include\um\ShObjIdl.h&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let me know if you still have problem in compiling it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S. the binary release is currently version 1.0, while the sources are version 1.1.&lt;br /&gt;There are no difference in functionality but only a few changes in order to respect modern C++ best practices.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description><author>raffaeler</author><pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:55:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">New Post: How-to compile WinRT debug source code 20111007095526A</guid></item><item><title>New Post: How-to compile WinRT debug source code</title><link>http://winrt.codeplex.com/discussions/274793</link><description>&lt;div style="line-height: normal;"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;br /&gt;first of all stay sure to have installed Visual Studio 11 Ultimate.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The preinstalled express edition only deals with metro-style apps while this utility is a pure Win32 Console COM/ATL application.&lt;br /&gt;I installed also the Device Driver Kit, but it should not be necessary to compile my app.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway the complete path for shobjidl.h is the following:&lt;br /&gt;C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Kits\8.0\Include\um\ShObjIdl.h&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Let me know if you still have problem in compiling it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;P.S. the binary release is currently version 1.0, while the sources are version 1.1.&lt;br /&gt;There are no difference in functionality but only a few changes in order to respect modern C++ best practices.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description><author>raffaeler</author><pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 09:55:26 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">New Post: How-to compile WinRT debug source code 20111007095526A</guid></item><item><title>New Post: How-to compile WinRT debug source code</title><link>http://winrt.codeplex.com/discussions/274793</link><description>&lt;div style="line-height: normal;"&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hi Author:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks a lot for your output to allow us to debug with package in WinRT system. I tried to understand the implementation behind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But after I downloaded the source code to my local win8 environment and tried to compile it with VS2011 developer preview, failed[preview seems just support wmaproj type].&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;with VS2010 in win8, I met with the following error: [I try to find ALT header and Windows 8 SDK with ShObjIdl.h, in Windows 7.0 SDK, there is one header file named after C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v7.0A\Include\ShObjIdl.h]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;seems some header files are missing in my installation,I can't even find&amp;nbsp;in windows 8 SDK, but in windows 7 SDK...&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;********************************&lt;strong&gt;Missing ALT Header File&lt;/strong&gt;****************************************&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;//TODO : In stdafx.h -&amp;gt; C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\atlmfc\include&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;#define _ATL_CSTRING_EXPLICIT_CONSTRUCTORS&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
#include &amp;lt;atlbase.h&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
#include &amp;lt;atlstr.h&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;*******************************&lt;strong&gt;Missing ShObjIdl.h&lt;/strong&gt;*****************************************&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;//TODO : C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft SDKs\Windows\v7.0A\Include\ShObjIdl.h -&amp;gt; In Windows 7 SDK header, but I don't think I should use it&lt;br&gt;
#include &amp;lt;ShObjIdl.h&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
//IPackageDebugSettings&lt;br&gt;
//CLSID_PackageDebugSettings&lt;br&gt;
//IID_IPackageDebugSettings&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I tried to compile project with ALT header file in VS2010, However, as windows 7 SDK don't have ShObjIdl.h with correct IPackageDebugSettings interface.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, it failed, Could you help me a hand for this?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks again for your help and output for us to understand how winRT work. ^_^&lt;/p&gt;
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